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0:00 Caller: Hello.
0:00 You: Hello.
0:02 Caller: Hey, is this Jed?
0:02 You: Hey, is this Jed?
0:04 Caller: Yes.
0:04 You: Yes.
0:05 Caller: Hi, Jed, this is Ian Morris from Bikoster Recruiting Partners.
0:05 You: Hi, Jed, this is Ian Morris from Bikoster Recruiting Partners.
0:08 Caller: How are you doing this afternoon?
0:08 You: How are you doing this afternoon?
0:10 Caller: I'm well and yourself?
0:10 You: I'm well and yourself?
0:12 Caller: Yeah, I'm doing well.
0:12 You: Yeah, I'm doing well.
0:14 Caller: I appreciate you asking, and I'll be able to find a couple minutes to speak about this opportunity.
0:14 You: I appreciate you asking, and I'll be able to find a couple minutes to speak about this opportunity.
0:18 Caller: I appreciate you giving me a call, and I'll dive run into it as I know you're a bit busy or you have some things going on.
0:18 You: I appreciate you giving me a call, and I'll dive run into it as I know you're a bit busy or you have some things going on.
0:25 Caller: But, yeah, for starters, the opportunity I reached out to you about.
0:25 You: But, yeah, for starters, the opportunity I reached out to you about.
0:30 Caller: with a hedge fund called Exodus Coin Capital.
0:30 You: with a hedge fund called Exodus Coin Capital.
0:32 Caller: Have you heard of Exodus Point Capital before?
0:32 You: Have you heard of Exodus Point Capital before?
0:35 Caller: I remember them being the largest launched hedge fund in recent memory.
0:35 You: I remember them being the largest launched hedge fund in recent memory.
0:40 Caller: Yeah, spot on.
0:40 You: Yeah, spot on.
0:43 Caller: And have you ever applied or been submitted to them before?
0:43 You: And have you ever applied or been submitted to them before?
0:46 Caller: No.
0:46 You: No.
0:48 Caller: Okay, gotcha.
0:48 You: Okay, gotcha.
0:49 Caller: Cool.
0:49 You: Cool.
0:50 Caller: Well, yeah, I mean, exactly it.
0:50 You: Well, yeah, I mean, exactly it.
0:53 Caller: They've been around since 2018, and this past year, they were up over 18% year to date,
0:53 You: They've been around since 2018, and this past year, they were up over 18% year to date,
0:59 Caller: and their office is located at East 505th Street between Park and Manston Avenue.
0:59 You: and their office is located at East 505th Street between Park and Manston Avenue.
1:03 Caller: And essentially, for this role, they're looking to bring on a senior data engineer to someone that can work on, like, their data lakes and AI and who has experience working with, like, you know, either Java or Python and who can work with, like, AWS, glue, and snowflake and data lakes and things like that.
1:03 You: And essentially, for this role, they're looking to bring on a senior data engineer to someone that can work on, like, their data lakes and AI and who has experience working with, like, you know, either Java or Python and who can work with, like, AWS, glue, and snowflake and data lakes and things like that.
1:21 Caller: So that's a high-level OVEP position.
1:21 You: So that's a high-level OVEP position.
1:24 Caller: I'd love to learn a little bit more about what you're currently doing at Roe and see if it's line with your still effects.
1:24 You: I'd love to learn a little bit more about what you're currently doing at Roe and see if it's line with your still effects.
1:29 Caller: Well, the biggest thing I'd like to know is how firm is the core Java requirement?
1:29 You: Well, the biggest thing I'd like to know is how firm is the core Java requirement?
1:34 Caller: It is not a core requirement.
1:34 You: It is not a core requirement.
1:37 Caller: It seems like they're open to candidates that have Python experience.
1:37 You: It seems like they're open to candidates that have Python experience.
1:42 Caller: I see.
1:42 You: I see.
1:43 Caller: So in terms of what I do at Roe, I was originally brought on to help the underwriting team.
1:43 You: So in terms of what I do at Roe, I was originally brought on to help the underwriting team.
1:48 Caller: Roe has a card product, much like a credit card.
1:48 You: Roe has a card product, much like a credit card.
1:51 Caller: And the underwriting team at the time was quite literally generating distressed credit models
1:51 You: And the underwriting team at the time was quite literally generating distressed credit models
1:59 Caller: in Excel, and it would take a few days to update every credit client's profile whenever
1:59 You: in Excel, and it would take a few days to update every credit client's profile whenever
2:05 Caller: their credit was being re-examined.
2:05 You: their credit was being re-examined.
2:09 Caller: So I took on that process and increased the credit underwriting capacity 400X.
2:09 You: So I took on that process and increased the credit underwriting capacity 400X.
2:15 Caller: So not only did it increase the speed with which the backlog of applications was processed,
2:15 You: So not only did it increase the speed with which the backlog of applications was processed,
2:19 Caller: but it was able to allow re-reviewing the underwriting clients' credit credit.
2:19 You: but it was able to allow re-reviewing the underwriting clients' credit credit.
2:29 Caller: position, how do I put this, more quickly or more frequently and with greater granularity.
2:29 You: position, how do I put this, more quickly or more frequently and with greater granularity.
2:37 Caller: Once that was stood up, it was pretty much the leadership's opinion was what else can you do?
2:37 You: Once that was stood up, it was pretty much the leadership's opinion was what else can you do?
2:44 Caller: And so any gap that any of the other leaders experience or their team's experience that could benefit
2:44 You: And so any gap that any of the other leaders experience or their team's experience that could benefit
2:51 Caller: from engineering attention, but not enough to allocate a full squad, was filled by me.
2:51 You: from engineering attention, but not enough to allocate a full squad, was filled by me.
2:57 Caller: And so now I'm at the point.
2:57 You: And so now I'm at the point.
2:59 Caller: every leader at Roe consumes something from me directly.
2:59 You: every leader at Roe consumes something from me directly.
3:02 Caller: As for the underlying stack, overwhelmingly it's Python.
3:02 You: As for the underlying stack, overwhelmingly it's Python.
3:07 Caller: More recently, Go and Rust for performance. All of this runs on top of Kubernetes,
3:07 You: More recently, Go and Rust for performance. All of this runs on top of Kubernetes,
3:12 Caller: something on the order of 200 plus services or systems or processes that are running.
3:12 You: something on the order of 200 plus services or systems or processes that are running.
3:21 Caller: And a lot of it increasingly is now managed by AI,
3:21 You: And a lot of it increasingly is now managed by AI,
3:25 Caller: especially now that infrastructure as code and declarative configuration is a much more accepted solution.
3:25 You: especially now that infrastructure as code and declarative configuration is a much more accepted solution.
3:36 Caller: Yeah.
3:36 You: Yeah.
3:39 Caller: Makes sense. Cool.
3:39 You: Makes sense. Cool.
3:41 Caller: And also, have you had any experience, like, what cloud technologies have you worked with?
3:41 You: And also, have you had any experience, like, what cloud technologies have you worked with?
3:48 Caller: That runs the gamut. So I'm familiar with Docker. I'm familiar with Kubernetes.
3:48 You: That runs the gamut. So I'm familiar with Docker. I'm familiar with Kubernetes.
3:51 Caller: I'm familiar with Nixo.
3:51 You: I'm familiar with Nixo.
3:55 Caller: I've worked in AWS and GCP.
3:55 You: I've worked in AWS and GCP.
3:59 Caller: I've built my own clouds.
3:59 You: I've built my own clouds.
4:00 Caller: I've handled from bare metal through to front end.
4:00 You: I've handled from bare metal through to front end.
4:05 Caller: So I can stand up and maintain my own independent cloud stack if the need arises.
4:05 You: So I can stand up and maintain my own independent cloud stack if the need arises.
4:13 Caller: Gotcha.
4:13 You: Gotcha.
4:14 Caller: Cool.
4:14 You: Cool.
4:15 Caller: That sounds good.
4:15 You: That sounds good.
4:17 Caller: Awesome.
4:17 You: Awesome.
4:18 Caller: And then the last thing I was going to mention,
4:18 You: And then the last thing I was going to mention,
4:21 Caller: have you worked with, like, AWS glue before?
4:21 You: have you worked with, like, AWS glue before?
4:25 Caller: or, like, you know, anything like that, too?
4:25 You: or, like, you know, anything like that, too?
4:29 Caller: I've used glue, although, frankly, there are superior solutions to glue,
4:29 You: I've used glue, although, frankly, there are superior solutions to glue,
4:33 Caller: so it's unclear how firmly attached Exodus Point is to glue.
4:33 You: so it's unclear how firmly attached Exodus Point is to glue.
4:40 Caller: Gotcha.
4:40 You: Gotcha.
4:41 Caller: Makes sense.
4:41 You: Makes sense.
4:42 Caller: Well, yeah, I mean, overall, there's some nice symmetry in terms of what you're doing,
4:42 You: Well, yeah, I mean, overall, there's some nice symmetry in terms of what you're doing,
4:45 Caller: so I'd be excited to make the introduction to Exodus Point.
4:45 You: so I'd be excited to make the introduction to Exodus Point.
4:49 Caller: If you were to leave Roe, how long is your notice period from there?
4:49 You: If you were to leave Roe, how long is your notice period from there?
4:54 Caller: Officially zero.
4:54 You: Officially zero.
4:55 Caller: probably four to six weeks. It'll take a while to transition off. And then timing, I'd also
4:55 You: probably four to six weeks. It'll take a while to transition off. And then timing, I'd also
5:01 Caller: want to be a little more strategic because there is an equity component to my compensation
5:01 You: want to be a little more strategic because there is an equity component to my compensation
5:06 Caller: at Roe. Gotcha. Yeah, makes sense. And then what's your visa status in the U.S.?
5:06 You: at Roe. Gotcha. Yeah, makes sense. And then what's your visa status in the U.S.?
5:14 Caller: I'm a citizen. Gotcha. Cool. And then what would you be targeting for total compensation based
5:14 You: I'm a citizen. Gotcha. Cool. And then what would you be targeting for total compensation based
5:20 Caller: and bonus for your next role? So what can you tell me about the bans and budget?
5:20 You: and bonus for your next role? So what can you tell me about the bans and budget?
5:25 Caller: Gotcha. I mean, you know, for this, they didn't provide a range. They were
5:25 You: Gotcha. I mean, you know, for this, they didn't provide a range. They were
5:29 Caller: casting a wide net in terms of Kent they've wanted to speak with. But I've been speaking with
5:29 You: casting a wide net in terms of Kent they've wanted to speak with. But I've been speaking with
5:34 Caller: Kansas to say around like 300 to 400 for total compensation. They do an all-cash base and bonus.
5:34 You: Kansas to say around like 300 to 400 for total compensation. They do an all-cash base and bonus.
5:42 Caller: Like, what would be enticing for you to want to make a move?
5:42 You: Like, what would be enticing for you to want to make a move?
5:46 Caller: To make that move, I'd be looking at 300-based, 500 total comp first year.
5:46 You: To make that move, I'd be looking at 300-based, 500 total comp first year.
5:53 Caller: But it seems that there are.
5:53 You: But it seems that there are.
5:55 Caller: plenty of other candidates who would accept less. So I'm happy to let them have the role.
5:55 You: plenty of other candidates who would accept less. So I'm happy to let them have the role.
6:02 Caller: Gotcha. Yeah, it makes sense. So you'd be looking for something like a 300K base and then 500 for
6:02 You: Gotcha. Yeah, it makes sense. So you'd be looking for something like a 300K base and then 500 for
6:07 Caller: total compensation? If it's all cash, if it's cash plus equity or some other illiquid component,
6:07 You: total compensation? If it's all cash, if it's cash plus equity or some other illiquid component,
6:14 Caller: then I add a risk premium on top of that, depending on the preference stack, the cap table,
6:14 You: then I add a risk premium on top of that, depending on the preference stack, the cap table,
6:20 Caller: and so on. Yeah, makes sense. Would you have any?
6:20 You: and so on. Yeah, makes sense. Would you have any?
6:25 Caller: flexibility on the base or is 300, like, uh, that's to ask me to leave row.
6:25 You: flexibility on the base or is 300, like, uh, that's to ask me to leave row.
6:32 Caller: Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Makes sense. Um, cool. Well, I mean, yeah, I'd still be open to making
6:32 You: Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Makes sense. Um, cool. Well, I mean, yeah, I'd still be open to making
6:38 Caller: the instructions access point. Um, do you have a resume you could send over to me? Sure, I'll have it
6:38 You: the instructions access point. Um, do you have a resume you could send over to me? Sure, I'll have it
6:43 Caller: over to you shortly. Yep. That sounds great. Cool. And I'll keep you close in terms of next steps,
6:43 You: over to you shortly. Yep. That sounds great. Cool. And I'll keep you close in terms of next steps,
6:48 Caller: but really appreciate your time and I'm sure the rest of your afternoon, right? You as well. Take care of
6:48 You: but really appreciate your time and I'm sure the rest of your afternoon, right? You as well. Take care of
6:53 Caller: Ian.
6:53 You: Ian.