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0:00 Caller: Hi, Chad, it's Tommy.
0:00 You: This call will be recorded.
0:04 You: Hello.
0:07 You: Hello, Tommy.
0:09 Caller: How are you?
0:10 You: I'm well and yourself.
0:13 Caller: Yeah, very well, thanks for asking.
0:16 Caller: I appreciate you getting back to me promptly.
0:20 Caller: and, you know, carving out some time to talk.
0:20 You: Just now?
0:23 Caller: So I don't want to keep you too long.
0:25 Caller: I have just sent you an email, though.
0:27 Caller: I'm not sure if you picked it up
0:29 Caller: with another role in the same company.
0:33 You: I see.
0:33 Caller: Yeah, moments ago.
0:37 You: I see.
0:38 You: What is this?
0:40 Caller: So in, in terms of what they're aiming for, it's, it's pretty big.
0:40 You: I see. Do you have a sense of how big they mean by scale?
0:53 You: Do you have a sense of hundreds of servers?
1:00 Caller: these are things now I'm not quite at that technical so I'm more assisting someone within our business and just connecting them really so I wish I could tell you that
1:00 You: Planet scale, one data center, multiple availability zones, anything along those lines?
1:20 Caller: It's certainly something I can look up for you.
1:20 You: Thank you.
1:23 Caller: So I'll not pretend to be nearly as technical as you.
1:26 Caller: My job is really just to maybe open the door for you.
1:30 Caller: And, yeah, an act as the introduction agent.
1:36 Caller: Yeah, I've not long been working with Sesame.
1:40 Caller: And I'm pretty new to the business myself.
1:40 You: We're going to be.
1:43 Caller: It's a brand new client, a brand new domain.
1:47 Caller: But from what I saw, it seemed like it would be a good match.
1:52 Caller: And from the information I have, certainly quite an exciting prospect.
1:58 Caller: So what is that they do if you have...
2:00 Caller: looked into them already and they have these real-time speech agents very
2:00 You: We're going to be.
2:08 Caller: realistic they were they if they were interested they would arrange to
2:13 Caller: interview with you directly and there would be a link to their demo and that
2:17 Caller: another really taking the time with this product there were no rush to
2:20 Caller: to launch, they want to make sure it's the best it possibly can be.
2:20 You: Thank you.
2:27 Caller: So the quality is very good from the demo that I've had a conversation with myself.
2:35 Caller: And so, yeah, they would encourage you to give that a try in the first.
2:40 Caller: instance where they're at right now is series B there are 250 million in so far and about
2:40 You: understood then
2:47 Caller: 90 head count founded in 23 so the founders
3:00 Caller: the founders of Oculus
3:00 You: We're going to be.
3:01 Caller: and so the grand
3:04 Caller: plan for this
3:06 Caller: speech AI is to
3:08 Caller: implement it into
3:09 Caller: glasses
3:11 Caller: not like the
3:13 Caller: the ray band
3:14 Caller: the meta ray bands but
3:15 Caller: not the same
3:16 Caller: that these would be all day wearable
3:18 Caller: and not
3:20 Caller: driven by advertising and with a much stronger emphasis on qualities and the processing
3:20 You: Well, I suppose the trouble with that is how you handle background voice noise.
3:28 Caller: would happen in the cloud and not advice.
3:39 You: That's the question.
3:40 Caller: I'm sure, potentially, I don't think I'm going to have that answer.
3:40 You: for the team, I suppose.
3:45 Caller: But, yes, certainly.
3:48 Caller: But, yeah, an ambitious plan.
3:51 You: I agree.
3:52 You: So what would the next steps be?
3:53 Caller: So, the next steps would.
4:00 Caller: You, I mean, you've given me a good idea of what you're looking for, the comp that you're exploring elsewhere, so that's fine. I don't really need any of that information. I've got an idea on timelines. They would have just a question as to the
4:00 You: We're going to be.
4:20 Caller: some of the movement on
4:20 You: Well, they wouldn't be the first ones to have those questions.
4:21 Caller: your resume
4:22 Caller: just the shorter
4:25 Caller: terms
4:26 Caller: I think
4:27 Caller: no of course
4:29 You: So at Content IQ, I was asked to falsify a document by the founder, so I resigned instead.
4:30 Caller: oh right
4:37 Caller: Thank you.
4:37 You: Spotify, COVID was raging.
4:40 Caller: you know what i'm going to be able to be able to be it
4:40 You: and they were offering internally six-month severance to those who raised their hands.
4:44 You: So I raised my hand.
4:45 You: It took the six months to upskill.
4:48 You: Meta, I was, what was that?
4:51 You: Metaverse was a thing.
4:53 You: Zuck was committing to burn $10 billion a year to make Metaverse happen.
4:59 You: And Wall Street...
5:00 Caller: okay well yeah
5:00 You: was punishing meta for it. So the stock was down 60% from the recent high, and there were rumors
5:07 You: of layoff swirling. So I figured jump now before I have to compete against my soon-to-be former
5:12 You: metamates for jobs. And then I ended up at Row, and it's been a good run for the last four years.
5:20 Caller: Okay, excellent. Well, that clears it up perfectly. I appreciate that. So why, what's encouraged the move now? Just on for a new challenge.
5:20 You: So three weeks ago, a startup founder cold emailed me from my GitHub, suggesting that they, that I
5:40 Caller: Perfect.
5:40 You: interview at their startup that that process is still in flight and so I figured it's good
5:45 You: time to see how the market will value my accumulated skills knowledge and experience
5:57 Caller: Okay.
6:00 Caller: Well, thanks for clearing that up.
6:00 You: Thank you.
6:04 Caller: And, yeah, in terms of my side, I guess all I'd relax now,
6:10 Caller: which would be your preference of those two,
6:15 Caller: assuming that you're not open to moving further afield for an...
6:20 Caller: thing I have have I mean would you relocate for a for a job across the States or further
6:20 You: what do you mean moving further afield so depends on to where if it's to san francisco i would require one point five million total comp first year
6:40 Caller: Right, okay.
6:40 You: Acknowledge it's high, it is unlikely anyone will pay it, but if someone is, then I would pay attention.
6:49 Caller: Noted.
6:51 Caller: Yeah.
6:53 Caller: So, yeah, I think, given the current circumstances
6:57 Caller: in the time, lines were up against...
7:00 Caller: with the focus on the New York offices of Sesame.
7:00 You: We're going to be.
7:03 Caller: I did have a client who are San Fran or they like people who would move to their Miami office.
7:14 Caller: That is very well aligned, but I'll spare you the time of dealing with those.
7:19 Caller: They won't get.
7:20 Caller: to the 1.5 in Sam Fran and I don't know what,
7:20 You: Most don't.
7:25 You: Honestly, I haven't checked.
7:25 Caller: I don't know what your expectations to move to Miami would be.
7:30 You: So that's something I'd have to assess just the costs of living in Miami versus elsewhere.
7:36 You: elsewhere.
7:40 Caller: you're open to that then by all means I could let you know that's a it's an agenetic
7:40 You: Thank you.
7:45 Caller: startup and and they are that the product is essentially regulated environments so think
7:56 Caller: healthcare think defense
8:00 Caller: And it's just, it really has to be right.
8:00 You: Thank you.
8:02 You: Thank you.
8:02 Caller: But I'll send you a link.
8:04 You: Thank you.
8:05 Caller: Let me know if Florida was on your radar.
8:10 Caller: And if so, then, I mean, I'm sure they would jump at it
8:15 Caller: and probably have enough by the end of this week.
8:19 Caller: Never mind.
8:20 Caller: the end of the month but cool so did you have a look at the the job descriptions for sesame
8:20 You: I did.
8:28 You: So I'd probably lean more toward development
8:28 Caller: what do you what do you think in terms of their alignment i think both fit but you may have a preference
8:40 Caller: Okay.
8:40 You: developer infrastructure, but it is, there is enough overlap with the back and infrastructure
8:49 You: role.
8:50 You: It probably ends up being a wash just because my skills and my experience span both rather comfortably.
8:57 You: So that's, I guess, a discussion for
9:00 Caller: yeah okay excellent perfect okay well let's let's see where we get with it um i appreciate your time won't keep you any longer and i'll uh let you
9:00 You: sesame if they end up merging the role or expanding one over the other
9:20 Caller: know if I hear anything directly, it's very likely they would reach out to you directly to set
9:20 You: Splendid, thank you, Tommy.
9:26 Caller: something up. So keep an eye out for an email from them. And best of luck with any other
9:34 Caller: interviews that you have ongoing. Great, Jed.
9:40 Caller: So, see again soon.
9:40 You: Take care.
9:42 Caller: Bye now.