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0:00 Caller: Can I speak?
0:00 You: This call will be recorded.
0:12 Caller: Jet!
0:12 You: Hello, Kenneth. It's Jed.
0:15 Caller: Oh my gosh, how long?
0:16 Caller: It's been a long while.
0:17 You: I know it's been a long while, and thank you for responding so quickly.
0:18 Caller: Hey.
0:19 Caller: No, I had some time.
0:24 Caller: So Friday's a little bit slower for me.
0:26 Caller: But yeah, tell me what's going on?
0:29 Caller: Tell me, what's going on?
0:30 Caller: You have a pretty sweet gig or real?
0:30 You: It's been four years.
0:32 Caller: Why do you want to leave?
0:34 Caller: Like, it's a pretty...
0:36 Caller: Oh, it's been four years, okay.
0:38 Caller: Kim's not growing you or anything?
0:40 Caller: Or just, you know, just curious, because...
0:41 You: So part of the trouble is I've been a level five engineer throughout my entire time at row,
0:44 Caller: Yeah.
0:48 You: because level six, staff or principal, is not the kind of thing you grow into.
0:54 You: You wait for the mandate to become available.
0:57 You: And the refresher that I got,
0:59 Caller: Ah, that's...
1:00 You: was about one quarter the value of my original grant, which is fine.
1:01 Caller: Yeah.
1:08 You: I don't expect an exact match, but I also know how much has been raised in the interim.
1:14 Caller: Yeah.
1:15 Caller: You're your public repository, your public repository, or just...
1:16 You: So a founder reached out to me cold to my GitHub account, suggesting I interview for their firm.
1:26 You: So that's still in process.
1:28 You: They haven't reached the,
1:28 You: the reference stage yet.
1:34 You: Correct, my public GitHubs.
1:35 Caller: I think it...
1:37 Caller: Yeah, yeah.
1:38 Caller: Okay.
1:38 You: And I figured if I'm going to interview there, I might as well see where else I can interview.
1:40 Caller: So...
1:44 You: And now I've landed multiple hedge funds and private equity firms.
1:45 Caller: Got it. So you want to, you...
1:52 Caller: You want to leave Roe because they're not compensating you or not providing the comp package
1:58 You: This news isn't fully out yet, but leadership is also changing at Roe.
2:02 Caller: for your level or not growing you.
2:04 Caller: Is that my understanding?
2:06 Caller: I'm not surprised. I have some pulse to what's going on.
2:16 You: Okay.
2:20 Caller: But yeah.
2:20 You: Then you also know someone at my seniority will take longer to find a role.
2:21 Caller: Yeah.
2:22 Caller: Yeah.
2:27 Caller: Okay.
2:28 You: So because of that, because of those, not rumors, but those murmurings, that, that movement I'm preparing now before I'm told to.
2:29 Caller: All right, man.
2:31 Caller: Well...
2:36 Caller: Before I, Max said it.
2:42 Caller: Yeah, yeah.
2:43 Caller: And I...
2:44 Caller: And I'm not surprised because I think Tommy left.
2:46 Caller: He went to a rover.
2:48 Caller: Like, people have been leaving world.
2:50 Caller: I've seen it.
2:51 Caller: I've still connected to the folks, even though I'm not, you know, there anymore.
2:54 Caller: So, yeah.
2:54 You: So yes, Tommy went to Erebor, a lot of the senior and the high predicament,
2:57 Caller: I'm not surprised.
2:58 You: reducing sales reps went with him.
3:01 You: So I don't know what kind of haul Tommy has.
3:03 Caller: It's a falling ship.
3:04 You: I wouldn't say fallen ship.
3:05 Caller: Yeah.
3:06 Caller: Yeah.
3:06 You: Roe still hit several milestones.
3:12 Caller: Okay.
3:13 Caller: So you need a recommendation for me.
3:13 You: It's more like I found, it's more like another ship is rising faster.
3:16 Caller: Makes sense.
3:18 You: It's not that Roe is falling.
3:20 You: Does that make sense?
3:21 Caller: So you need a recommendation for me.
3:24 Caller: So what do you want me to say in recommendation?
3:26 You: So you handled the
3:28 You: fraud function at Roe, and you were one of my largest customers in time, and your team
3:35 You: depended on a lot of what I built as a pillar of what ultimately helped you protect Roe against,
3:36 Caller: I don't remember what it was, but probably somewhere to that effect.
3:42 You: I think it was $4 million a year in fraud.
3:49 You: Then multiple millions of dollars a year in fraud.
3:50 Caller: Yeah.
3:51 Caller: I'll go to automations.
3:53 Caller: Correct.
3:54 Caller: Correct.
3:55 Caller: Okay.
3:57 Caller: Okay.
3:57 You: I don't think that's...
3:58 Caller: I'm willing to do that for you.
3:58 You: Anything you need to be coached to, and I appreciate your willingness to do this for me.
4:00 Caller: Yeah.
4:03 You: Hopefully, you don't need it for me in return, but always happy to offer you a reference.
4:05 Caller: Yeah, I've left the tech sector.
4:11 Caller: Like I work for as a VP at a mid-sized financial institution now.
4:16 Caller: So, you know, my life stage is totally different now.
4:21 Caller: I have a daughter.
4:23 Caller: So I think I spend them exiting, like the whole thing that happened was the best thing that ever happened
4:28 You: I appreciate that.
4:29 Caller: to me.
4:30 Caller: I got a nice severance and it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
4:34 Caller: I mean.
4:35 Caller: I mean, honestly, at the tail end of it, I was very unhappy, and I was, like, arguing with, like, I covered every single day.
4:40 Caller: So, but, you know, I think for you, if you're, if this is what you want, I'll do what I can to help with you.
4:47 You: How would you like to receive?
4:48 Caller: Okay.
4:51 You: What are your information should I send over?
4:53 Caller: Just send over a phone number, phone number and email is fine, and then, you know, whenever they want to reach out to me, I will, I'll be happy to give a glowing reference.
4:54 You: Your phone number and email?
4:58 You: You don't need to glow, just the truth, because I think that's more than...
5:05 Caller: Yeah. Yeah.
5:07 Caller: Yeah.
5:08 You: You're a risk guy, so they'll see through that.
5:09 Caller: Yeah.
5:12 Caller: Yeah.
5:12 You: They'll see through anything but the truth.
5:14 Caller: Yeah.
5:16 Caller: Yeah.
5:17 Caller: Yeah.
5:18 Caller: But I was probably one of the only risk guys is as technical as I was at that point in time.
5:22 You: You still are.
5:23 Caller: And so that might...
5:23 You: Your replacement is much more a more a replacement is much more a...
5:25 Caller: Ah.
5:27 Caller: I...
5:28 Caller: It's okay. It was ever a choice. So I get it. He's looking for a yes man to open the funnel.
5:28 You: people systems guy than a technical implementation execution guy.
5:41 Caller: So, um, but, you know, like, yeah, I'm happy to do whatever.
5:45 Caller: Just let me, just give me a heads up when they're going to reach out to me so I can be available.
5:49 Caller: And I hope, I hope you get it, man. I think it's a, it'll be good for you to, uh, continue to grow.
5:55 Caller: And I know you have a family as well, so you're thinking about your family.
5:58 Caller: family and your growth. So whatever works for you, I'm, I'm happy to support.
5:58 You: I appreciate it, Kenneth, and hope you enjoy your weekend.
6:05 Caller: All right. Thanks, man. Just send my information over. You have all my info. Thanks. Bye.
6:10 You: Understood. Thank you.