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Caller: 447537156852 • Duration: 122s • DID:

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0:00 Caller: Hi, Judd, sorry for the abrupt call.

0:00 You: This call will be recorded.

0:06 You: Hello, Graham.

0:10 Caller: So I just came off with Ben.

0:10 You: Thank you.

0:13 You: Thank you.

0:14 Caller: I think I've just shared an email.

0:15 You: Thank you.

0:16 Caller: You should have it.

0:17 Caller: So Ben says what we need is a bit more transparent.

0:20 Caller: transparency. So a range alone isn't useful without knowing the actual number and how it's calculated. So we need as much transparency as we can get so that tomorrow.

0:20 You: I don't know.

0:22 You: Thank you.

0:24 You: Thank you.

0:30 Caller: should you be essentially ready to say that Elliot is your preferred option and they need to move the needle at some to some number we need

0:30 You: Thank you.

0:32 You: Thank you.

0:40 Caller: the numbers to put in front of them and just to be able to say that this is the offer he's got

0:40 You: Thank you.

0:44 Caller: and these are the numbers he's got and this is what we need to kind of aim at arrange essentially

0:50 Caller: is kind of putting Ben in a situation whereby he'd be going in blind and he doesn't want to

0:50 You: Thank you.

0:55 Caller: kind of do that he kind of needs to be able to articulate the gym pretty transparent

1:00 Caller: what essentially they need to be wary of and what they need to be ready to put in front of them

1:00 You: Thank you.

1:02 You: Thank you.

1:04 Caller: in front of you specifically because yeah pretty much he

1:10 Caller: means that kind of detail because if we're going to move the number from 400k up

1:10 You: Thank you.

1:13 Caller: we need to know to what carry and we obviously understand that the 400k is not

1:20 Caller: that much of a jump or an issue right now but should it get to a point where we do need to

1:20 You: Thank you.

1:22 You: Thank you.

1:24 You: Thank you.

1:24 Caller: negotiate more and do understand your timings pretty much and on the 10th of july we need

1:30 Caller: as much leverage as we possibly can put in front of Jim to get that across the line for you.

1:30 You: So the headline wasn't enough for Ben.

1:40 Caller: No.

1:40 Caller: wasn't enough no Ben literally feels like we need we need specific numbers yeah

1:40 You: specific

1:43 You: he wants a full breakdown

1:50 Caller: full breakdown all right now you give them a call

1:50 You: I'll give them a call.

1:55 You: Thank you, Graham.

1:58 You: Yeah.

2:00 Caller: All right, cool. Thank you.

2:00 You: Thank you.